Re: [vserver] Debian Support

Nikolay Kichukov a écrit :
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> I am a big fan of Debian, however I always use vanilla kernel + vserver experimental patches and compile the
> util-vserver tools from source. Not the debian way, but good enough for a standalone box under my full control.
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Hi,

At first, on Debian / Sarge, i prefered to build kernel myself (outdated
kernel version).
With Debian / Etch, the Debian's packages were good enough to be used as
this.
And now, Debian / Lenny, has another kind of problem: mismatch between
kernel and patch.

In my opinion, kernel is one of the most easy thing to build / change
(less than 5 min on a recent smp machine).
The proof: a very old Redhat (7.3 i386) that was originally running on a
poor P4, works now perfectly on a SMP machine with an amd64 kernel !

In fact, we don't have to run after the latest kernel releases, and in
most of the cases the security holes comes from userland applications ...

So:
- i build my own kernels (IPv6, 'pseudo' loopback, and some new
features that are usefull for me),
- i take stability and updates from Debian,
- and i continue to use my favorite distribution ;)

> Cheers,
> - -Nik
>
> Herbert Poetzl wrote:
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>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 04:46:18PM +0200, Meik Sievertsen (new-data-services GmbH) wrote:
>>
>>> Timothee Besset wrote:
>>>
>>>> Eugen Leitl wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:01:39AM +0100, ben@bristolwireless.net wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Personally I was really hoping to see a better quality Linux-Vserver
>>>>>> support in Debian this time, so sad news.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Me, too.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone else any feelings about this? Any chance of a rescue attempt?
>>>>>>
>>>>> I think that sucks big time. I'm willing to help with testing, if
>>>>> that's of any help.
>>>>>
>>>> Same, we use vserver exclusively on Debian.
>>>>
>>> For us as well - we only use Debian and if there will be no longer
>>> linux-vserver support we will simply use a different product.
>>>
>> well, it's sad to see what power a distributor holds
>> despite the fact that the debian Linux-VServer kernels
>> have gotten really bad over time, religious debian users
>> (like yourself?) cling to those broken kernels without
>> ever considering an alternative ...
>>
>> best,
>> Herbert
>>
>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Meik.
>>>
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