Re: [Vserver] a bit off topic but good to know if there is a known problem

From: Chuck <chuck_at_sbbsnet.net>
Date: Mon 05 Mar 2007 - 21:45:06 GMT
Message-Id: <200703051645.06411.chuck@sbbsnet.net>

On Monday 05 March 2007 14:24, Herbert Poetzl wrote:

thanks for all the info!! after placing a call to SI i am told that our drives
are definitely of the same family and that the WD drives I looked at as
replacements would work perfectly. They confirmed the behavior I am
experiencing.

thanks again!!

> On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 07:43:51AM -0500, Chuck wrote:
> > On Monday 05 March 2007 06:15, Herbert Poetzl wrote:
> > > On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 05:42:01PM -0500, Chuck wrote:
> > > > i have seen many of you have similar setups so if there is a known
> > > > problem we should all know about it...
> > > >
> > > > has anyone heard of a problem with the sda channel in the SATA
> > > > on board silicone image 3114 controller in general or on a tyan
> > > > 2882D series motherboard using opteron processors? we are running
> > > > a software raid1 and sda keeps going south even with a new hdd to
> > > > the point it is not detectable at all.. a power down, unplug plug
> > > > back in and restart usually cures it and the array re-syncs then
> > > > gets an error and sda is no longer visible to anything,.. it is a
> > > > tyan GX28 system.
> > > >
> > > > i am running all my vserver partitions on lvm2 under this if that
> > > > has any bearing..
> > > >
> > > > outside of a faulty motherboard i am at a loss as to what could
> > > > cause this.
> > >
> > > this is what google had to say :)
> > >
> > > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=351495
> > >
> >
http://www.leenooks.com/Silicon+Image+311x+sata+controllers+and+some+Seagate+disks
> > >
> > > in general, the Sil 311x is considered very slow
> > > and 'crappy' but it should be supported quite fine
> > >
> >
> > we are kinda stuck with the on board controller however since this is
> > a 1u case and the riser is already used for a nic. i think we may try
> > replacing sda with a western digital drive. the seagates we are using
> > are not on the black list in the driver but are of the same family..
> > if this wd works we will replace the 2nd drive with a wd and will have
> > learned the hard way never to use seagate paired with silicone image
> > controllers. i would rather see the boss change the case to a 2u and
> > put a real hardware raid controller in on a 2 card riser but...... it
> > is not my call.. (and of course we find all this out after the machine
> > has been in our production environment for 5 months)
>
> in most cases the hardware raid controller is not worth
> the money, as a software raid usually gives a much better
> performance with less latency and more control for the
> operating system ...
>
> nevertheless, hw-raid can have some advantages if it is
> done properly, e.g. auto reconstruction without affecting
> the system performance and/or battery buffering in power
> failure cases ...
>
> best,
> Herbert
>
> > > http://www.tyan.com/archive/products/html/gx28b2882_spec.html
> > >
> > > looking at the specs for the GX28 I see AMD chipsets
> > > which 'might' lack proper support, the Sil 3114 there
> > > is also connected to the legacy 32bit bus and does
> > > only support SATA 1.0, so I wouldn#t expect too much
> > > from that ...
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > > Herbert
> > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Chuck
> > > >
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> > Chuck
> >
> > "...and the hordes of M$*ft users descended upon me in their anger,
> > and asked 'Why do you not get the viruses or the BlueScreensOfDeath
> > or insecure system troubles and slowness or pay through the nose
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-- 
Chuck
"...and the hordes of M$*ft users descended upon me in their anger,
and asked 'Why do you not get the viruses or the BlueScreensOfDeath
or insecure system troubles and slowness or pay through the nose 
for an OS as *we* do?!!', and I answered...'I use Linux'. "
The Book of John, chapter 1, page 1, and end of book
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