From: Herbert Poetzl (herbert_at_13thfloor.at)
Date: Sat 12 Mar 2005 - 01:05:04 GMT
On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 01:23:50AM +0100, Gilles wrote:
> Hello.
>
> > > 1. Removing dispensable packages:
> > >
> > > pciutils fdutils ipchains makedev ppp pppconfig pppoe pppoeconf
> > > dhcp-client console-common console-data console-tools klogd sysklogd
> > >
> > > [Note: klogd still triggers that cpu-hogging behaviour, which makes it
> > > *indispensable* to remove...]
> >
> > I think you'd want to keep sysklogd but just remove klogd - you'll
> > still want the software in the vserver guest to log their stuff to
> > /var/log/something via a syslogd running within the vserver guest,
> > right?
>
> Yes, certainly. Unfortunately, sysklogd "Depends" on klogd!
>
> > This is something my suggestion for a (virtual) vserver-guest Debian
> > package would have handled automatically, but the concensus was that
> > such a package wasn't needed.
>
> If I remember correctly, that package ought to have been installed on the
> guest, but I would think that the removal of things-that-get-in-the-way-
> of-virtuality should be handled at guest creation ("vserver build").
>
> Why ask of everyone that "builds" a vserver to clean up their "hardware-related"
> initscripts when the parts that pose problem are known?
> Most probably, the actual setting up depends on the distribution but since
> some of them start to be somehow supported within the tools (through the
> ".distribution" directory), it seems logical to handle that problem at
> that level too.
> [And that would avoid repeating on the mailing list, every now and then,
> that the guest system config must be stripped off hardware-related scripts...]
> As was pointed out in a previous answer in this thread, for Debian it would
> be readily handled by passing an option to "debootstrap".
will look into providing a 'virtual' kmsg soon ...
(so don't invest more into that right now than removing
the klogd line in the scripts ;)
best,
herbert
> Best,
> Gilles
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