From: Justin Fielding (justin_at_okulyillari.com)
Date: Mon 01 Nov 2004 - 08:34:27 GMT
Do yourself a favor, stay well away from plesk. It may look pretty and have
a few nice features, but I have it on a VPS and it takes so much control of
the system, it stops you upgrading certain packages (e.g. mysql), it uses
it's own highly modified packages for some areas of the server etc. Just
save yourself the headache and use something else.
Unfortunaly I had to use plesk as it was part of the VPS package. I could
not find a comparable Vserver host for the same kind of money. I get 15GB
of space, 256MB dedicated ram etc etc for $40. Vserver setups seem to give
less for more money, some jokers even try and charge $100 for a Vserver with
5GB of disk space etc, but you can get yourself a dedicated server for that!
Anyway, just don't use plesk, thats all I can say :)
Many Thanks,
Justin Fielding,
Intelliweb Ltd UK.
A mission statement is defined as "a long awkward sentence that demonstrates
management's inability to think clearly." All good companies have one. -
Scott Adams, The Dilbert Principle, 1996"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Ayres" <matta_at_tektonic.net>
To: <vserver_at_list.linux-vserver.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Vserver] Plesk 7
> DirectAdmin and cPanel work for the most part. Quite a few things
> work... jailshell doesn't work as it needs loopback image support,
> quotas inside vserver don't work, under 1.2/1.3 when quotas work it's
> still not perfect. No bandwidth management/logging works as the panels
> use iptables inside VPS to count rules to track bandwidth. There are
> quite a few more problems, but I can't remember them right now.
>
> On Sun, 2004-10-31 at 13:13, Ehab Heikal wrote:
> > Well plesk is avialable for download if any of the developers want to
test
> > it.It is one of the most attractive control panels and thier virtuozzo
is
> > much more restrictive than vservers ( but supposedly better
performance ).
> > Are any other hosting automation control panels know to work with
vserver.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Herbert Poetzl" <herbert_at_13thfloor.at>
> > To: "vs-technik" <vs-technik_at_s-online.at>
> > Cc: <vserver_at_list.linux-vserver.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 12:10 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Vserver] Plesk 7
> >
> >
> > > On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 05:25:41PM +0200, vs-technik wrote:
> > > > hello!
> > > >
> > > > >> EH> Has anyone tried to run the plesk 7 control panel in a
vserver.
> > > > >> EH> I did and it gives me errors. If nobody actually tried what
> > > > >> EH> capabilities should I give a hosting control panel to be able
> > > > >> EH> to fully function.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> we have tested plesk7 a few weeks ago.
> > > > >> the plesk-developer-crew have installed it on our
vserver-machines.
> > > > >
> > > > HP> Sidenote: SWsoft does not only do control panels like
> > > > HP> Plesk or Confixx it also produces and sells Virtuozzo ;)
> > > > >
> > > > >> results:
> > > > >> a lot of problems in vserver-context.
> > > > >
> > > > HP> maybe the plesk-developer-crew is not so experienced
> > > > HP> in handling 'other' virtualization techniques ...
> > > >
> > > > indeed.
> > > >
> > > > HP> anyway, is there a list of issues you encountered
> > > > HP> and can you tell if they are pleask or vserver related?
> > > >
> > > > this was done by a ex-team-colleague.
> > > > i did not crosscheck the problems.
> > > >
> > > > there are only 2 "snaps" outof _my_ mailarchive,
> > > > but maybe it can help somebody:
> > > >
> > > > *)
> > > > | ... `hostname` command is intensive used in Plesk libraries,
> > > > | so please not disable this feature. ...
> > > >
> > > > *)
> > > > | 0: /usr/local/psa/admin/plib/cmd_mpc.php3:1 psaerror(string
"Unable to
> > generate data: Unable to get
> > > > | system data: invalid value of psa_server_ip = ''") 1:
> > /usr/local/psa/admin/htdocs/mpc.php:1
> > > > | get_mpc_encrypted_data(string "extras_server", array)
> > > >
> > > > a workaround with a dummyscript should work.
> > > >
> > > > | /bin/hostname which will return '0':
> > > > | #!/bin/sh
> > > > | exit 0
> > > >
> > > > but the plesk-crew mean:
> > > >
> > > > | host `hostname`
> > > > | ('hostname' should be original hostname utility from SuSE, not
fake
> > script).
> > >
> > > well, hostname, for example will work both to get and
> > > to set the hostname inside a vs1.9.2 or later linux-
> > > vserver guest .. so that should not pose any problem
> > >
> > > OTOH, host does just do ip lookup, and in this case
> > > it's more likely to be a misconfigured dns/resolver
> > > than any other issue ...
> > >
> > > > so far i got the infos,
> > > > the main-problem was the restricted access to the
hardware-resources.
> > >
> > > hmm, what would be the point in having a virtual
> > > server, when this server has full access to the
> > > hardware (resources) ...
> > >
> > > > p.s:
> > > > we use on our vserver-machines only suse-linux.
> > > > and plesk is not "stable" with suse.
> > >
> > > and not "stable" means?
> > >
> > > > lg.
> > > > k.
> > >
> > > thanks for the infos,
> > > Herbert
> > >
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