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From: Sandino Araico Sánchez (sandino_at_sandino.net)
Date: Fri 17 Sep 2004 - 10:20:18 BST


Marc E. Fiuczynski wrote:

>Hi Sandino,
>
>In what compelling VPS scenarios is the VPS administrator != host system
>administrator?
>
>
In commercial VPS hosting the host system administrator is the hosring
provider while the VPS administrator is the client.

The client needs to issue a ticket each time he needs the hosting
provider to setup a new iptables rule or a new grsec ACL.

>Marc
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: vserver-bounces_at_list.linux-vserver.org
>[mailto:vserver-bounces_at_list.linux-vserver.org]On Behalf Of Sandino
>Araico Sánchez
>Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 10:36 PM
>To: vserver_at_list.linux-vserver.org
>Subject: Re: [Vserver] Reiser4 views/process oriented security proposal
>
>
>Christian Mayrhuber wrote:
>
>
>
>>Could become interesting:
>> http://www.namesys.com/blackbox_security.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>The process-oriented ACL seems functionality equivalent to grsec
>process-based ACLs.
>One disadvantage of grsec + vserver is that ACLs are applied system-wide
>and must be administered on the mother server. The same applies to
>iptables rules.
>The advantage of Reiser's views model is that since they are defined on
>the file attributes they can be defined inside the scope of the children
>vservers so each vserver admin will be able to define his own ACLs just
>by defining ACL attributes on every file to be execcuted.
>The VPS administrators using Reiser 4 will be able to define
>process-oriented ACLs as they wish whenever they wish while VPS
>administrators using grsec ACLs must rely on their host system
>administrator to apply the rules as they better understand.
>
>
>
>>What do you think, maybe views instead of
>>chroot() + mount --bind?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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